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History and Hearsay
On this podcast we discuss lesser known characters and events from history. Some of the details of these historical accounts may be debated and on this show YOU get to decided: Is it History? Or is it Hearsay?
History and Hearsay
Retired school teachers who stole millions!
They seemed like the perfect couple: retired schoolteachers, quiet neighbors, world travelers... and secret art thieves? In this jaw-dropping true story, we uncover the shocking double life of Jerry and Rita Alter — an unassuming New Mexico couple who lived modestly, yet had a stolen $160 million painting hanging in their bedroom. For decades, no one suspected a thing.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:57 - The Theft
4:29 - The Investigation
5:48 - Jerry’s Early Life
7:25 - Jerry & Rita
16:49 - Settling the Estate
21:26 - Surprising Discovery
25:08 - Getting it back to where it belongs
30:48 - Continued Investigation
32:19 - Evidence against the Alters
36:36 - Other Crimes
41:47 - Other Valuable Items
48:06 - Internet Sleuth Under covers More
50:34 - Final Thoughts
►Sources:
https://www.wfaa.com/article/features/unclassified-fbi-files-unveil-clues-in-stolen-de-kooning-painting-discovered-behind-bedroom-door/287-b3a9910f-6193-4e48-adce-060c2fc8aafa
1st Documentary: https://www.wfaa.com/article/features/originals/discovering-the-de-kooning-a-wfaa-original-documentary/287-503975958#longform_chapter_5
2nd Documentary: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.6cdc30a1-2592-4b3c-910c-247543403954?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb
https://www.ksfr.org/criminal-justice/2025-06-06/after-40-years-stolen-art-comes-home-to-taos
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/mar/29/the-thief-collector-review-the-ordinary-married-couple-behind-a-massive-art-heist
https://www.azcentral.com/in-depth/news/local/arizona/2022/10/06/who-were-jerry-and-rita-alter-missing-de-kooning-found-couples-home/8195231001/
https://medium.com/true-crime-road-trip/the-missing-masterpiece-2caebd788a9d
More stolen works: https://www.scdailypress.com/2024/03/15/california-writer-finds-two-stolen-works-estate-now-famous-cliff-couple/
RETURNED: https://medium.com/true-crime-road-trip/detour-artwork-recovered-32bbb154a170
https://medium.com/true-crime-road-trip/taos-homecoming-83219e93512a
https://www.kunc.org/film-reviews/2023-06-09/film-review-a-true-story-stranger-than-fiction
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/18/arts/de-kooning-higgins-sharp-harwood-fbi.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XU8.hQDd.JxNCDG5HEN96
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/03/a-small-town-couple-left-behind-a-stolen-painting-worth-over-100-million-and-a-big-mystery/
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/de-kooning-art-theft
https://medium.com/true-crime-road-trip/the-missing-masterpiece-2caebd788a9d
https://www.kunc.org/film-reviews/2023-06-09/film-review-a-true-story-stranger-than-fiction